May 7, 2005 – Johnny Knoxville / System of a Down (S30 E18)

Segments are rated on a scale of 1-5 stars

PRIMETIME LIVE
Paula Abdul (AMP) is bedding American Idol contestants; Paula Abdul cameo

— I recall hearing that shortly before performing this cold opening which spoofs her personal issues, Paula Abdul had an emotional breakdown backstage and was in tears. If that’s true, that type of backstage drama just adds on to the troubled vibe this season in general has.
— And there goes season 30’s obligatory weekly instance of Maya singing.
— Wait, Maya as TWO different male American Idol singers in the same live sketch?
— This spoof of Paula Abdul’s scandal is simply not working for me.
— Blah, I don’t care for the turn at the end with Paula breaking the fourth wall by entering the sketch and critiquing Chris, Kenan, and Amy’s impressions of the American Idol judges.
— Knowing about the backstage emotional breakdown that Paula allegedly had shortly before this cold opening started, her smiliness at the beginning and end of this cold opening seems kinda fake to me.
STARS: *½


OPENING MONTAGE
— SNL writer and occasional onscreen bit player Jason Sudeikis has been added to the cast.


MONOLOGUE
cast members, Sophie Michaels [real], DOP prank host Jackass-style

— That sounded like newbie Jason Sudeikis as the mic’ed off-camara voice that exuberantly yells “JACKASS!!!” right when Johnny Knoxville says he’s known for a certain TV show. Even in an off-camera voice-over, Jason manages to get a laugh from me.
— Even though this monologue is just very predictable Jackass-style humor, it’s coming off pretty entertaining here.
— A rare Don Pardo onscreen appearance! And we even get to see him knee Johnny Knoxville in the groin!
— Pretty fun ending with Seth.
STARS: ***


MOM JEANS
— I pretty much lost count of the number of times this well-loved Mother’s Day-related commercial from two seasons prior has been re-aired in new episodes (even some episodes that aired nowhere near Mother’s Day) from the two seasons that followed it. This is also the THIRD time season 30 has repeated a commercial from a previous season.


SALLY & DAN HARRISON: THE COUPLE THAT SHOULD BE DIVORCED
needlers Sally (AMP) & Dan (SEM) are the Harrisons: The Couple That Should Be Divorced

— Amy and Seth’s Couple That Should Be Divorced characters make their debut. However, their last name in this debut is Harrison. In their subsequent sketches, their last name would be Needler.
— Another sketch in this era with an opening title sequence and theme song. Between Merv The Perv (who we’ll be seeing later tonight), Debbie Downer, The Couple That Should Be Divorced, the following season’s Carol sketches, and maybe something else I’m forgetting, the number of this era’s recurring characters with their own title sequence and theme song is almost starting to rival that of the late 80s/early 90s era, though the latter certainly has the more memorable collection of recurring character title sequences and theme songs.
— Good concept for a sketch.
— Lots of well-done sarcasm and tense interplay between Seth and Amy throughout this.
— After Chris asks the Harrisons “So, how was your vacation?” in a desperate attempt to break the tension, I like Rachel angrily whispering to Chris “Why would you ask them that?!?”
— Funny turn with the Harrisons’ off-camera violent-sounding confrontation in the kitchen turning out to be them having sex. Unfortunately, that’s a turn that SNL would eventually run INTO THE DAMN GROUND in these characters’ subsequent sketches.
STARS: ***½


DOMINO’S COMMERCIAL
Donald Trump (DAH) tapes a commercial for Domino’s cheeseburger pizza

— I wonder if Seth’s voice-over as the off-camera director is being done live. If so, he had to rush fast from the Couple That Should Be Divorced set to wherever he had to be placed for his voice-over in this Trump sketch, as this Trump sketch is airing immediately after the Couple That Should Be Divorced, with no commercial break in between.
— The third and final edition of this season’s reliable “Trump films a promo” sketches, though we get somewhat of a variation of it in the following season’s Lance Armstrong episode, in a sketch where Darrell’s Trump is shooting a scene for a soap opera.
— Very funny visual of Darrell’s Trump in that pizza costume.
— Trump: “(to the tune of the McDonalds “I’m Lovin’ It” jingle) Doo do do do dooo, Dominios.”
— This sketch is particularly great, and Darrell’s Trump is coming off even funnier here than he did in the very funny last two Trump promo shoot sketches. This would probably be a good place to point out that I’ve been pleasantly surprised by what a solid season Darrell’s been having. Before now, I had always been under the impression that, after Will Ferrell’s departure in 2002, Darrell slept-walked through his remaining 7 seasons and came off as an increasingly unnecessary part of the show. He’s been proving me wrong on both fronts this season.
— Trump: “Cheesus Crust, I’m hungry!”
STARS: ****½


VERSACE MOTHER’S DAY SPECIAL
Donatella Versace (MAR) visits her mom (RAD) in Italy on Mother’s Day

— (*groan*)
— Well, the good news is, this mercifully ends up being the last Versace sketch for two years, and the next Versace sketch will be the final one.
— A super hacky gay joke with Versace’s shirtless gay assistants eagerly wanting the long pepperoni sausages that Versace’s mother is holding up.
— Now we get a super hacky line about J.Lo’s dog farting.
— Oh, and speaking of super hacky, here comes Horatio’s damn Elton John, an impression that’s the epitome of super hackiness. Oh, and of course, with his impression, this sketch gives us super hacky gay sex jokes about Elton.
— Aaaaaaaaand there goes Horatio’s terrible habit of pausing awkwardly before delivering a line, then starting to crack up at himself. FUCKING UGH.
— I’m three minutes into this sketch, and there has yet to be anything in it that HASN’T made me cringe.
— Overall, a completely laughless and completely cringe-full waste of time. Hard to believe by this point that there used to be a time, several seasons prior, where Versace sketches actually worked (at least for me).
STARS: *


CHANNEL 5 LATE NIGHT MOVIE
abductee (WLF) learns science isn’t motive for alien’s (host) anal probes

— This sketch uses the same “Channel 5 Late Night Movie” framing previously used in the Radioactive Bear and King Kong sketches from season 28.
— Sloppy delivery from Johnny early on in this.
— UGH. Here comes YET ANOTHER obligatory display of season 30’s unbearable hyperfocus on hacky gay humor. Oh, and as if this dire season didn’t already have some similarities to the also-dire season 20, now we get a horrible “anal-probing UFOs” sketch, just like season 20 infamously had in the Deion Sanders episode. I almost want to consider tonight’s “anal-probing UFOs” sketch an unintended sequel to the Deion Sanders version, with us now actually getting to see the mysterious aliens and the inside of the spaceship that we only saw the outside of in the Deion sketch.
— A terrible ending.
— Well before the camera even fades to black at the end of this sketch, Chris can be seen dropping character and unzipping his spacesuit costume RIGHT ON FUCKING CAMERA. Geez, the fact that a true professional like Chris Parnell has resorted to doing something like that, combined with his very bored and almost passive-aggressive delivery of “Live from New York…” in the preceding episode’s Tom DeLay cold opening, is all further proof of what a mess this lousy season is and makes me wonder if even Chris is so over it by this point.
— Overall, just as horrible a sketch as I expected. It’s a complete joke that this crap made it on the air.
STARS: *


MUSICAL PERFORMANCE
musical guest performs “B.Y.O.B.”

— During a close-up, System Of A Down’s guitarist yells a very audible “FUCK YEAAAAHHHH!” into the mic (the second above screencap for this musical performance).


WEEKEND UPDATE
WLF sings a Mother’s Day song to mom Patti [real] about her future death

Ritchie B.’s interpreter doesn’t appreciate his black stereotype jokes

TIF & AMP sing the theme song for cheap shoes bearing the Bobos brand

TIF & AMP mark the passing of Weekend Update founding editor Herb Sargent

— Jesus Christ, Amy’s embarrassingly bad Kevin Federline joke was a perfect example of so many things that’s both wrong with her as an Update anchor and wrong with the writing of this season’s Update jokes.
— Great to see a Will Forte Update commentary, and he’s doing one of his many Update songs, which I’m always a sucker for.
— Always fun to see cast members’ moms.
— The “I’m gonna miss you when you’re dead” turn in Will’s song to his mother is fantastic. Lots of great inappropriate and dark lyrics here.
— I’m glad Tina refrained from doing her tired Arnold Schwarzenegger vocal imitation during her Ahnuld joke tonight.
— The return of the running gag from earlier this season with Amy’s angry rants towards Angeline Jolie. This has been one of the very few things Amy’s done on Update this season that has worked for me.
— A good immediate callback to tonight’s Angelina Jolie rant from Amy, with Tina following up Amy’s rant with a newsflash about a story that features Jolie one-upping Amy.
— Ugh, and right after the solid Jolie callback bit, we get a particularly super-hacky Update joke, even worse than usual Fey/Poehler Update jokes. I swear, every time this season takes one step forward with a rare strong Update joke, they IMMEDIATELY follow it up by taking two steps back with a really bad joke that ruins the good momentum.
— Nice to see the return of Fred’s deaf comedian character and his interpreter, a bit that I loved last time.
— Even Fred’s mere gestures and facial expressions while doing sign language as this character tickle me.
— Like last time, some funny inappropriate black people jokes from Fred’s character, and some great reactions from Kenan.
— Even though tonight’s overall deaf comedian commentary treaded the same ground as last time, this still worked for me. However, it’s probably a good thing that this ends up being the final appearance of this routine.
— OH FUCKING NO. What the hell are Tina and Amy doing right now, with them wasting airtime with this terrible and unfunny “Bobos” song-and-dance number of theirs? Are they fucking kidding me?!? This…this…just…how does something like this even make it on the air?!? This epitomizes EVERY FUCKING THING I hate about Tina and Amy as an Update duo, and why I will forever argue that them as an Update duo was COMEDY POISON, and why it’s always bugged me how the media at the time was blowing so much smoke up Tina and Amy’s asses by endlessly praising this Update era. I’m sorry for my harsh attitude, folks, but reviewing this troubled season in general has made me salty as fuck by this point, and you’re seeing me unleashed in tonight’s review.
— Ugh, these god-awful Update jokes. I tell you, I wish this era’s audience was as unforgiving and not afraid to respond to a bad joke with complete silence as audiences during the dark Weekend Update/SNL Newsbreak years of 1980-1982 were, as this Fey/Poehler Update era is, to me, the worst since those 80-82 years.
— Tina and Amy at least end tonight’s Update on a classy note, with them taking a moment to honor Weekend Update founding editor Herb Sargent, who passed away earlier that week. Nice to also see an accompanying behind-the-scenes photo of Sargent and Chevy Chase at the Update desk back in the original era.
STARS: **


MOTHER’S DAY BRUNCH
transsexual (host), grandma (MAR), new mom (AMP) brunch on Mother’s Day

— Jason Sudeikis in his first live appearance as a cast member.
— Seeing Jason and Seth sitting next to each other reminds me of how, back when this episode originally aired, I was worried that then-newbie Jason would be another Seth Meyers: a bland white guy with no real versatility or anything distinctive as a performer. Keep in mind that that’s only how I felt about Seth BACK THEN. I’ve come around on him while doing these reviews, and I now admit that he’s nowhere near as irritatingly bland or un-versatile as a season 30 utility player as I previously thought. I’ve gained a newfound appreciation for his sketch performance skills. That being said, I feel Jason would definitely go on to be the FAR better and more distinctive utility player, so it’s funny to look back on how worried I was back in May 2005 that Jason would be another Blandy McBlanderson like I considered Seth to be at the time.
— UGHHHH. There goes Maya once again using that god-awful “phlegmy-throated old black lady” voice that is absolutely unbearable.
— OH FUCKING NO. This transphobic material with Johnny’s transgender character has aged horribly. Oof. It doesn’t get more cringey than this. Then again, I remember not finding this shit funny even back in 2005.
— While not as horrible as the transgender material or the “phlegmy-throated old black lady” material, the material with Rob and Amy as a baby’s overly-proud parents is very lame and unfunny, and yet another waste of Rob’s talents.
— It’s sad that Jason’s first live sketch as a cast member has to be THIS awful sketch. It’s also sad that this sketch is so awful, because I actually LIKE the out-of-the-ordinary format of it, with how its constantly cutting back and forth between three completely different conversations at three individual restaurant tables. An actual good season of SNL would’ve gotten a solid sketch out of that format.
— Weak ending and a poor use of Chris.
STARS: *


HELPING HANDS TELETHON
Andy disrupts a telethon by shouting “Oh no!” when callers try to pledge

— Great to see this return, as this bizarre character of Will’s always slays me.
— Even just Will’s strange-sounding delivery of the telethon name “Helping Hands” makes me laugh.
— Will’s first “OHHHHH, NOOOOOO!” in tonight’s sketch gets some mild recognition applause from the audience.
— What the hell is with Kenan, Fred, and Rachel’s giggliness while singing? You can tell their giggliness isn’t in character, but I don’t understand what it was that caused them to break, as they started giggling as soon as they entered the sketch.
— I love Jason’s constant false alarms on when the show has cut to commercial while Johnny is “candidly” chewing out Will’s Andy character and admitting the telethon is a sham. Not only is the “false alarm” material very funny in itself, but Jason’s delivery is perfect for it.
— Johnny’s anger towards Will’s Andy is fun, but he’s not as strong a straight man to Andy as Paul Giamatti was in the first installment of this sketch.
STARS: ****


MERV THE PERV
Merv The Perv & brother Irv (host) disgust Victoria’s Secret customers

— This ends up being the final appearance of Chris’ only big solo recurring character, Merv The Perv, despite the fact that Chris still has one more season to go as a cast member.
— When revealing that he and Merv The Perv are brothers, I like Johnny’s dirty line “Our mother wasn’t the ONLY womb we shared.”
— Meh, Johnny’s Irv The Perv character getting his own Merv The Perv-esque opening title sequence and theme song feels unnecessary and tedious, even though SNL has done the “a character with his own title sequence meets a character who gets a similar title sequence of his own” trope to better success twice within these past few seasons (The “Coolest Teacher At Benton Township High School” sketch, and the Falconer installment with Ashton Kutcher as The Muskrateer).
— Amy’s not convincing at all as an angry straight man, as she has a big smirk on her face right now, which clearly isn’t in character.
— And now Maya and Rachel have also begun smirking during their “angry” reactions to Merv and Irv. Why the hell has the cast been so damn giggly tonight? Yet another example of how season 30 is such a mess.
— Overall, despite a few laughs I got, I actually found this Merv The Perv installment underwhelming. Something about this installment felt a little lacking compared to previous installments. Perhaps this character has finally run his course, and if so, it’s a good thing this ends up being his final appearance.
STARS: **


MUSICAL GUEST INTRO
Paula Abdul [real] introduces musical guest

— Rather odd how this intro is done by Paula Abdul instead of Johnny.


MUSICAL PERFORMANCE
musical guest performs “Aerials”


ACTION NEWS
extensive broadcast news team includes a clock factory arsonist (CHP)

— I like the constant fake-outs with how the introduction of each individual in the extensive news team continues every time the show makes it seem like the intros are done. Good way to work in what I believe is the entire SNL cast.
— Rob’s wild laughing facial expression is particularly funny to me.
— I like the “I’m going to burn down a clock factory” bit with Chris, even though the joke feels…I dunno, odd.
— For someone in his first episode as a cast member, Jason has been very visible. You gotta feel bad for Rob, though. With Jason being added to the cast shortly before the end of this season and immediately having a very visible presence and showing good potential while Rob continues to struggle badly for airtime and have his comedic potential wasted, I’m sure Rob saw the writing on the wall in regards to his chances of being brought back the following season.
— Wow, the sketch is over already? This was quite a strange and oddly-structured sketch, but I think I liked it because of that. Hey, in season 30, I gotta take what I can get.
STARS: ***


BEAR CITY
by T. Sean Shannon- an anthropomorphic ursine leaves a bar

— One of the more simpler Bear City gags, but still decent.
STARS: ***


YOU MIGHT BE A GAY REDNECK IF…
You Might Be A Gay Redneck If you’re Jeff Foxworthy’s half-brother (host)

— In an episode that’s already been filled with the cheapest, shittiest, hackiest, most cringeworthy humor about gays or transgender people, now SNL is gonna close the show by throwing a full-on motherfucking “What would it be like if (insert person here) acted like a gay stereotype?” sketch at me, in a season that’s already been rampant with “What would it be like if (insert person here) acted like a gay stereotype?” sketches, AND in an episode where Johnny Knoxville has played an unflattering gay or transgender character in literally HALF OF HIS APPEARANCES? Fuck this episode. Nah, fuck this season.
— By the way, here’s yet another season 20 trait that season 30 has shown tonight: a horrible and tedious Jeff Foxworthy parody.
— I do want to point out that in the photo of various gay redneck stand-up comedy DVDs at the end, a DVD cover of Fred as “Treat Dangerfield” is shown, even though he was nowhere to be seen in the actual sketch. Fred’s Treat Dangerfield, a gay version of Rodney Dangerfield, was actually supposed to have a stand-up segment shown in this sketch, but the show ran out of time and had to cut it, a deletion that thankfully prevented me from pulling out my hair over having to sit through EVEN MORE bad gay stereotype humor.
STARS: *


GOODNIGHTS

— Right before these goodnights get cut off early, Finesse brings Jason to the front of the stage and points at him while looking at the audience (the right side of the last above screencap for these goodnights), given the fact that this was Jason’s first episode as a cast member. In my SNL project, this is the very first instance I’ve noticed of what would go on to be a semi-tradition: a cast member being pointed out by his or her cast mates during the goodnights of either his or her very first episode, or the first episode that he or she finally does something that kills with the audience after about half a season of struggling to get any noteworthy roles.


IMMEDIATE POST-SHOW THOUGHTS
— (*sigh*) Not only is this what feels like the billionth consecutive weak episode this season, but I found this episode to be particularly frustrating. Sure, there was actually a decent number of things that worked, but they were pretty much canceled out by all of the badness that surrounded it, as most of that badness wasn’t just typical mediocrity; it was among some of the absolute WORST things to air in this entire season. And given the quality of this season, that’s certainly saying something. Of this season, only the frustration I got from reviewing the Hilary Swank episode can compare to the frustration I got from reviewing certain portions of tonight’s episode. As I said in my last review, season 31 cannot come soon enough for me. In case you haven’t been able to tell, reviewing season 30 on a daily basis has officially taken its toll on me. No other season has been this frustrating for me to review, not even any of “The Notorious Three” (seasons 6, 11, and 20).


MY PERSONAL CHOICE OF “BEST OF” MOMENTS FOR THIS EPISODE, REPRESENTED WITH SCREENCAPS


HOW THIS EPISODE STACKS UP AGAINST THE PRECEDING ONE (Tom Brady)
a mild step down


My full set of screencaps for this episode is here


TOMORROW
Will Ferrell makes his hosting debut, to hopefully add some shred of quality to this dire season shortly before it ends. (I guess he wasn’t available for the season finale.)

19 Replies to “May 7, 2005 – Johnny Knoxville / System of a Down (S30 E18)”

  1. Knoxville hosting is a bit of coincidence for SNL- at one point around season 25, they were actually considering picking up “Jackass” as a weekly sketch series (not unlike the Mike Judge “Office Space” sketches during seasons 19/20.

  2. Oh boy, I’ve been waiting all season for the Will Ferrell review!

    Jeez, now I regret asking what was so wrong with this episode. It’s plain to see here! When was the last time there were so many gay sketches in an episode?

  3. What’s interesting is that the episode isn’t THAT bad to start–opening aside, the monologue offers some cheap, fun laughs, and then the Couple That Should Be Divorced and Trump ad are enjoyable sketches (although I like later Needler sketches better). The Domino’s ad might be my favorite SNL thing to feature Donald Trump ever.

    Of course, things go off the rails after that. I remember watching much of this episode–I agreed with your sentiments at the time that I was worried that Sudeikis was going to just be a bland nobody. I didn’t remember much about the Mother’s Day restaurant sketch, certainly not the hacky, outdated humor, but I also remember agreeing that I enjoyed the sketch format.

    I liked the news team sketch, but I’m a huge sucker for sketches that almost entirely consist of long lists of things.

    I’m struck reading your reviews of how much self-indulgence and smirkery I was willing to overlook of the Fey-Poehler team. I certainly wasn’t a super fan of them, but until you get a sense of just how much more self-indulgent the team was compared to even Fey-Fallon (and at least from what I can remember, Poehler-Meyers), you don’t realize how problematic the duo was. I wonder if Tina is going to get Twitter cancelled at one point when young folks today recognize how much of her tenure as head writer was jammed with offensive-by-today’s-standards material.

    I’d agree a key theme of this season is sloppiness–tons of technical errors–but also a general lazy feel among a lot of the cast members.

    The opening seemed desperate then (like Paula Abdul hurriedly trying to do damage control) and even sadder knowing her behind the scenes travails. I always dislike when SNL allows public figures to use their show to do PR boosts (and the material isn’t that good either).

  4. This episode is particularly disappointing because the pairing of Knoxville and System of a Down SOUNDS like it’s gonna be insane. Instead we get S30 recycling the same old stuff they always do. Johnny was pretty wasted as a host outside of the pretaped bits of the monologue. Having a stuntman as host and making him play straightman to Seth Meyers instead of doing any sort of physical comedy feels like a missed opportunity.

    I agree with you that this season is the most frustrating out of the all-time worst ones. It’s so goddamn boring and lowstakes and hacky. At least S6 and S11 seemed like they were putting effort in; there’s a flopsweat desperation to the stuff that doesn’t work in those seasons. And S20 would have some ambitious or longform sketches every now and then. Aiming high and missing is better than aiming low and “scoring” (huge quotation marks on “scoring.”)

    I don’t know who’s to blame for this season being the way it is, but it does feel like once Seth takes over Tina’s spot as headwriter, the tone changes significantly.

  5. Regarding Tina and Amy’s performance as Update anchors: To (allegedly) paraphrase Dana Carvey, do you hear any of us disagreeing with you? Damn, were they hyped to death.

  6. I’m so glad to finally get to the start of Jason Sudeikis’ tenure, partially because it is the first step in fixing in what is an incredibly fractured male cast (the most fractured and difficult to balance male cast I ever remember SNL having), partially because he’s the first step toward a cast I find much easier to enjoy (even if the material never matches their talents), but most of all because he’s so naturally charismatic and assured as a performer – even in this very first sketch. I am mostly fond of Seth’s sketch performances, but I’d agree that Jason is much better as a straight man – Jason is, for me, the last “glue” cast member SNL had (and given the cast sizes since his exit maybe that isn’t a surprise, although Kenan has his moments, and Cecily has shown that potential at times).

    When I started watching of these episodes last year, I really started for Bill Hader, and while his work is fine, he is much, much more underused than I had realized for his first 3-4 years as a cast member. So Jason ended up catching my eye, and I now really do appreciate just how much of his 8 seasons rested on his shoulders.

    I couldn’t help noticing the similarity between Jason and Rob when they were jumping around in the goodnights – both husky guys, bros, able to do the slow burn, etc. I’d imagine Rob had to see the writing on the wall, but at least he didn’t seem to show any resentment.

    And yeah, Finesse showcasing Jason was a nice moment. I didn’t realize this started so long ago – Mikey Day (and a few others) does this with new cast members now. It adds to the family feel of a cast, and helps connect them to viewers even as the show has moved so far away from the backstage element that helped fans care about the people they were watching.

  7. This was the first episode to air after Tina Fey’s pregnancy announcement, with Maya announcing she was pregnant soon after. Fey is showing during Update, and Maya has a just-barely-visible bump in “Merv the Perv.” Just a stray observation, of course.

    I can’t believe I gave this a 3 1/2 out of 5 when I saw this live 15 years ago. Maybe it says more about how my tastes have evolved and how I’ve grown as a person, but the barrage of homophobic and transphobic humor here is just too much. Between that and the sketches that do work, Knoxville/SOAD makes for a dizzying, almost bipolar viewing experience. At least the musical guest was solid.

    1. Maya’s top pretty much gives away the pregnancy (although to be fair if I didn’t already know she was pregnant I might not be saying that).

      I can see why you gave it a 3.5 for the time it aired – there are at least 4 pretty good pieces (monologue, telethon, news, Bear City) and the Needlers is, I guess, passable enough. And there are other pieces I would have wanted to like, and might have been less critical of at the time – transphobia was so fire in 2005 that I might have been more able to push away some of the grossness just to be glad they had an attempt at a slice-of-life piece. Today of course that isn’t possible (and while it isn’t offensive, Maya doing her friendly-alien-from-an-80s-cult-movie voice is unbearable in of itself).

  8. I mainly remember the Sally and Dan Harrison: The Couple that Should Be Divorced sketch. It was enjoyable for what it was and I think I liked the subsequent Needlers sketches after the surname change…

  9. I must say, I loved Rachel as Donatella Versace’s mother. A very broad performance, but I love it anyway.

    1. (Note: I just meant to post a link to the episode, I didn’t actually mean for the episode itself to show up here. If this is not OK, please delete and I apologize.)

  10. Honestly I’d put Amy/Tina below the 80-82 Updates. Charles was tough to take (although he could have grown into the role), but at least Gail, Mary, Brian, and Christine were very earnest, even if most of the writing ranged from mediocre to wretched. The comedy bits are also extremely forced and at some points (like the Mary and Brian “flirtation”) embarrassing, but at least there is more variety than cutesy-poo smugfests. 80-82 also had a stronger (if overused) group of correspondents in Eddie, Joe and Tim K. Forte and Fred do their best, but they are also in a bubble, with Tina and Amy not bothering to have a genuine connection with them. I also find their Update run to be sanctimonious and phony – we get so much time spent reminding us how adorable they (particularly Amy) are, yet we also get weeks of mean-spirited jokes about Britney Spears that feel like the epitome of punching down, considering just how much the media was after her around this time. There have been periods of time with other Update anchors that are pretty hard to watch, but they also had stronger periods, and strong qualities alongside the weaknesses. I just don’t see that here.

    I did enjoy Will’s Mother’s Day song (his mother reminded me of a mix of Julia Sweeney and Linda Ronstadt).

    This is the main episode in season 30 that reminds me of season 20, with a host who seems very disconnected from the cast (as happened in the worst of season 20), the alien rape sketch (which is one of the WORST sketches I’ve ever seen on SNL), the endless gay jokes, and also the feel of being out of date (was anyone very interested in Jeff Foxworthy gags in 2005?). Another similarity is that, unlike much of the grinding nothingness of season 30, there are actually several very strong sketches to serve as a whiplash to the garbage.

    Will’s “oh no” return is great, but the news sketch is even better – one of my favorites of 2000-2005. It reminds me a great deal of McKay-era news pieces (I can easily see Will Ferrell playing Parnell’s role here), and gets all the beats of performance and pacing right. I love Parnell here, but there are so many great moments – Tina and Rob and Jason are especially good.

    The monologue is also a lot of fun – setting up an episode we never quite get, sadly.

    I had to skip Donatella and Trump (the latter because of the person being impersonated…the former because it’s fried ass). Not a big Needlers fan either but this one had its moments.

    Amy is fun in the cold open (her “NOT MY CONSTANTINE” really cracks me up), but the rest is a waste of time. And poor Paula is a mess, as she so often was at this time. Tina had nothing great to say about her:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tina-fey-calls-paula-abdu_n_75287

    1. “Honestly I’d put Amy/Tina below the 80-82 Updates.”

      I couldn’t agree with this more. I’d gladly take ANY of the Doumanian/Ebersol-era Updates, as bad as they could be, over Tina and Amy. I didn’t like them then, and I utterly despise even the very idea of them now. It doesn’t help that, frankly, I don’t particularly care for Tina or Amy individually anyway, but their cutesy, “best buds” Updates were simply awful – absolutely my least favorite era of WU.

      The Seth/Amy combo worked (works?) a little better for me, but I’m not exactly champing at the bit to get to that era, either.

      (All IMO, of course.)

      On another note, these reviews have reminded me just how refreshing Forte and Armisen were back then. Armisen eventually wore out his welcome for me, but Forte never did. And I’m pleased that we’ve now entered the Sudeikis era!

  11. According to the post above, Amy played Paula because she insisted on switching parts. Yeesh. Around this time, Paula had an ill-advised reality show and there was a lot of crazy on display. (I also remember a few years later, Rosie O’Donnell on The View said “Paula sure was drinking a lot of COCA-COLA last night” with a look to the camera)

    Rachel Dratch writes in her book that her back threw out on this Wednesday, and she did the whole table read from the floor. Johnny Knoxville offered her a variety of painkillers.

  12. In the cold open, Paula told Amy that she needed to be “a lot more sexier” in the Paula role. Not sure she read that off the cue cards. Amy fake-smiled, but didn’t exactly look thrilled. Amy looked happier when telling a Paula Abdul joke during Update, a couple of jokes before the Richie B. and Marcus bit.

  13. System of a Down swears throughout the “B.Y.O.B.” live performance, which the band lets NBC know beforehand ( https://www.metalinsider.net/television/metal-insiders-top-10-heaviest-snl-musical-guests/9 ). There’s a brief flub where SNL mutes the instrumental mix just after muting Serj Tankian’s vocals. Daron Malakian’s “FUCK YEAH!” slips in as it’s a similar situation to SNL booking Rage Against the Machine – ask a hard-edged band with political leanings to censor a song, and what do YOU think the reaction is? Also like RAtM, the second song (“Aerials”) is from an older album, yet at least SoaD perform a second song. It’s also weird to see SNL book two metal bands in a row…I know, Queens of the Stone Age is stoner rock but SNL finally acknowledges two of 1998’s notables, good on it.

    As for the Blue Collar jokes, Blue Collar TV is a sketch comedy show on The WB around this time, so the Foxworthy jokes remain current(…ish?) when this episode airs. As with a lot of mid-2000s SNL targets, Blue Collar comedians are low-hanging fruit, and it’s not like the show lasts much longer – The WB pulls BCTV four episodes into the second season as the show stops production, then dumps the final episodes in its just-here-to-merger-die-with-UPN summer schedule. I’m not a BCTV fan, yet SNL in this era loves its comedy crutches just as much as stop #4 on Larry the Cable Guy’s Gittin-R-Done Rise to Fame.

  14. This will be the Vintage repeat this coming Saturday, being that Jackass: Forever has done well at the box office, and the fact that Knoxville actually won a match at Wrestlemania.

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