October 21, 2000 – Dana Carvey / The Wallflowers (S26 E3)

Segments are rated on a scale of 1-5 stars

THIRD PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE
undecided voters question debaters Al Gore (DAH) & George W. Bush (WIF)

— Parnell’s facial prosthetics as Jim Lehrer seem to get doughier and goofier-looking with each passing debate sketch.
— I can’t help but think that the woman seated behind Kattan (seen in the fourth screencap above) looks like a female Rob Schneider.
— I like Parnell-as-Jim-Lehrer’s sighing, head-shaking reactions to dumb things being said throughout this debate.
— Great to see Dana’s obligatory Bush Sr. appearance in this debate sketch.
— As always, Dana’s Bush is getting lots of laughs here. I even love how towards the end of his first spiel, he says “So to sum up…”, which was a regular thing Dana’s Bush always said towards the end of his address-to-the-nation sketches from the late 80s/early 90s.
— Ha, there goes Darrell’s Gore bringing up his famous lockbox again.
— I love Bush Sr. and his aides now flimsily disguising themselves as undecided Latino voters.
— Now Bush disguises as his wife Barbara, which is also funny.
STARS: ****


OPENING MONTAGE
— Much like in the season premiere’s opening montage two episodes earlier, we get a credit for A Cartoon By Robert Smigel that ends up not even airing tonight, presumably due to the show running long.


MONOLOGUE
DAC does stand-up about presidential candidates’ mannerisms

— As always, Dana is making fantastic ad-libs towards the audience’s reactions at the beginning of this monologue.
— I absolutely love Dana doing Bush and Gore impressions, making me wonder what it would’ve been like if the Bush/Gore elections had occurred during Dana’s tenure as a cast member.
— Some interesting out-of-the-ordinary camera angles throughout this monologue, such as all the close-ups of Dana’s face when demonstrating various impressions, and shots of the audience whenever they applaud Dana’s impressions.
— I love how Dana’s now doing a Joe Lieberman impression.
— Dana’s Johnnie Cochran/Monopoly bit is great.
STARS: ****


MAGIC MOUTH
Magic Mouth ass-appliance converts flatulence into erudite conversation

— For a low-brow fart joke, this actually isn’t bad at all. A pretty funny ridiculous device to hide your farts. I especially like the device’s obvious mechanical voice that people are somehow supposed to believe is your own voice.
— Will: “Magic Mouth – it’s like having a professor up your butt.”
STARS: ***


THE DELICIOUS DISH
Margaret Jo & Terry welcome a teacher (DAC) besieged by gang activity

— This always-solid recurring sketch has been appearing so scarcely by this point.
— I like Molly’s stern, humorless delivery of “There’s nothing cartoonish about my religious beliefs.”
— I like seeing Dana appear in a Delicious Dish, as it feels interesting seeing a former cast member appearing in a newer recurring sketch from a current era, when it’s usually the other way around in episodes hosted by former cast members (as we’ll see in a certain popular returning Dana Carvey recurring sketch right after this).
— The high-pitched, soft-spoken voice that Dana’s using here sounds kinda familiar, as if I heard him previously use it in a sketch that I reviewed back when I covered Dana’s years as a cast member. I can’t put my finger on which sketch I’m thinking of. Perhaps it’s the Jason Priestley ice skating cold opening, where Dana played Scott Hamilton?
— Dana going on about the urban juvenile gang who terrorizes his neighborhood is very funny, especially when he starts getting worked up when talking about how he’s going to get even with the gang.
STARS: ****


CHURCH CHAT
Hillary Clinton (ANG), Anne Heche (CHK), Eminem (CHP)

— Always great to see this sketch return.
— A hilarious Indian analogy that Church Lady makes in regards to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s relationship, especially the line about Bill getting his “peace pipe” smoked.
— Kattan reprises his Anne Heche impression for the first time since way back in season 22 when he played her opposite Mark McKinney as Ellen DeGeneres, just to show you how long ago it was.
— I love Church Lady’s dig at Heche’s infamous wandering incident.
— The “Taco or wiener?” part of the Church Lady/Anne Heche interview has always stuck in my memory since this originally aired.
— Church Lady’s facial reaction to a profanity-filled clip being played of an Eminem song is priceless.
— Great ending with Church Lady doing a “The Real Slim Shady”-esque number, complete with Church Lady lookalikes surrounding her.
STARS: ****


HUNTING
George (DAC) seeks gravitas in George W. (WIF) Bush during a hunting trip

— I love that we get two appearances tonight from Dana and Will’s Bushes, this one being more in a similar vein to the cold opening that Dana and Will did as the Bushes in the preceding season’s Christopher Walken episode. Will’s Bush impression has really improved since then.
— I like that we get a return of the Bush-Sr.-slapping-Bush-Jr. gag from the last Bushes sketch with Will and Dana.
— A good dark bit with Bush Sr. contemplating shooting his son.
— SNL would later replace this sketch in reruns with the dress rehearsal version, which has a memorable blooper in which Dana fake-slaps Will at a much earlier point in the sketch than he was supposed to, causing Will to react by moving his head upward in a comically confused manner, before ad-libbing a line to Dana, in character: “You tried to hit me?”, which Dana responds to, in character, with “Thought I saw a fly there.” Then later in the sketch when Dana fake-slaps Will when he’s supposed to, Dana ad-libs in character, in a stern manner, “Now that time, it wasn’t a fly!”
STARS: ****


BAHA MEN
going to commercial, Baha Men [real] perform “Who Let The Dogs Out”

— Um… ooooookay.
— At least this shows that SNL is still trying different things with their format this many decades into their run.


WEEKEND UPDATE
Anna Nicole Smith (MOS) outlines her university’s gold-digging curriculum
opinion-gauger Adam McKay [real] comes off as a dangerous stranger
Robert DeNiro [real] responds to JIF’s review of Meet The Parents

— Parnell’s now doing the voice-over intro for Update, after the voice-over intro in the previous two Updates this season were done by a male with an unidentifiable voice.
— Tina’s doing tonight’s Update without her glasses, which I remember being an odd sight even at the time, considering the only two Updates that we had seen Tina do prior to this had her with glasses, but it ESPECIALLY comes off as an odd sight when re-watching this nowadays, after being so familiar with Tina doing Update with glasses for SIX SEASONS.
— I like Jimmy’s various jokes about a bulge that Al Gore is sporting in a picture.
— Molly doing a very typically Molly Shannon-esque “impression” of Anna Nicole Smith. Blah. I found this “impression” of hers a lot more tolerable in pre-taped form in that great Fanatic piece from the preceding season’s Ben Affleck episode. In tonight’s live Update commentary, all that Molly’s Anna Nicole impression is making me do is wonder two things to myself: 1) why couldn’t Molly have left with Cheri, and 2) exactly how many more episodes do I have left until Molly mercifully leaves mid-season? It’s been pretty rough watching her go downhill these last few seasons.
— Tina’s whole rant about French whores is great, and I remember made me wonder back when this originally aired if Tina was the writer behind the great Old French Whore sketch from season 23’s Garth Brooks episode. As we know now, she indeed was.
— Interesting sudden use of a drop-down news screen behind Jimmy and Tina.
— SNL writer Adam McKay gets his own remote segment.
— Good remote segment from McKay so far, especially him trying to lure kids into his van.
— UCB’s Matt Walsh makes a funny appearance as an angry parent kicking McKay’s ass.
— Adam McKay, to Matt Walsh, regarding the kids: “I just want them to go in my van so I can film them talking about Bush!”
— A Robert DeNiro cameo, back when Robert DeNiro appearances on SNL still had a level of excitement.
— More interesting camera angles tonight, with the odd tight close-ups of Jimmy and DeNiro, respectively, at the beginning of DeNiro’s cameo (the last two above screencaps for this Weekend Update). SNL’s been doing a lot of experimenting with camera angles in tonight’s episode.
— I like Tina saying “You are on your own” when Jimmy asks her for help during DeNiro’s tense grilling of him.
— This DeNiro commentary is a prototypical example of how corny and tired a lot of SNL’s “a celebrity walks on and confronts a cast member who impersonates them” trope tends to be. There have been some examples where that trope actually worked well and provided good entertainment, but I can’t say this is one of them, in my opinion. Jimmy is coming off pretty charming in his reactions, though, especially after DeNiro signs off for him by saying “And I’m Jimmy Fallon” in a hokey, high-pitched voice. Am I remembering correctly that on Jimmy’s very first episode as host of Late Night, he and that night’s first guest, DeNiro, did a comedy bit that seemed to be based on this Update cameo of his, in which Jimmy and DeNiro read scripted lines as each other, with Jimmy doing his typical DeNiro impression and DeNiro using the same hokey, high-pitched voice that he imitated Jimmy with in tonight’s Update?
STARS: ***


MUSICAL PERFORMANCE
musical guest performs “Sleepwalker”


VH1 VOGUE FASHION AWARDS
stars celebrate style superlatives

— Yikes, poor Jerry Minor, flubbing his first line in this sketch when trying to say the name Cuba Gooding Jr. SNL would later replace this portion of the sketch in reruns with the dress rehearsal version.
— Maya’s Macy Gray impression is spot-on and funny.
— I like Kattan’s take on Dylan McDermott, especially him asking us to stare at his “package”.
— Tracy as a loud Samuel L. Jackson is cracking me up.
— A lot of then-recent SNL hosts and musical guests are being impersonated in this sketch: Cuba Gooding Jr., Macy Gray, Dylan McDermott, Sting…
— Rachel is hilarious in her impression of Cheb Mami during the Sting performance.
— A spot-on Sting impression from Jimmy.
— I can’t really judge the accuracy of Dana’s impression of Survivor’s Rudy Boesch, as I’ve never been a Survivor watcher, though I remember seeing a clip or two of Rudy back then on other shows. Dana’s performance is making me laugh here, though, plus I like the Super Fans-esque Chicago accent he’s using, which makes me wonder what it would’ve been like if Dana had played one of the Super Fans back when he was a cast member.
STARS: ***


PET CHICKEN SHOP
Ching Change receives financing for his Broadway play about chickens

 

— OH. NO.
— Why, why, why did Dana have to bring back this wretched character tonight? I don’t need to be reminded of how miserable it was for me to review these sketches back when I covered Dana’s first few seasons as a cast member.
— A cue card has made an accidental onscreen cameo just now (screencap below), which is somehow more interesting than the sketch itself is.

— This feels like Horatio’s first appearance all night. Man, his airtime has been pretty terrible so far this season.
— Horatio’s incredibly hammy, over-the-top performance is cracking me up in spite of myself. Dana can be seen cracking up at him at one point too.
— Oh, no, and now to make this already-awful Ching Change sketch even worse, we get that “Tomorrow” song from Annie that I despise with a fiery passion.
— The change of pace towards the end, showing a Broadway play starring chickens, is kinda funny, I admit.
— Aaaaaand my goodwill from the above Broadway chicken play bit immediately gets soured by Dana breaking out into that “Tomorrow” song AGAIN, as if hearing that song once in this sketch wasn’t bad enough.
— This has the dishonor of being the first sketch all season that I’m giving a rating under three stars to, though it’s certainly impressive that this season made it this long without having a sketch rated 1-2 stars by me.
STARS: *½


MUSICAL PERFORMANCE
musical guest performs “Hand Me Down”


GOODNIGHTS


IMMEDIATE POST-SHOW THOUGHTS
— As expected, a solid episode with Dana Carvey as a host, though the episode’s quality gradually trailed off a little in the post-Update half. The first half of the show, minus the Magic Mouth commercial (which was still good), had an impressive long string of sketches that got a 4-star rating from me. Season 26 continues to do very well so far.


MY PERSONAL CHOICE OF “BEST OF” MOMENTS FOR THIS EPISODE, REPRESENTED WITH SCREENCAPS


HOW THIS EPISODE STACKS UP AGAINST THE PRECEDING ONE (Kate Hudson)
a slight step up


My full set of screencaps for this episode is here


TOMORROW
Charlize Theron. This is a very special episode for me, as it’s the very first episode I ever did a review of, back when I regularly did reviews of new SNL episodes right after they aired, for 14 long years. (Those reviews are archived at this site.)

16 Replies to “October 21, 2000 – Dana Carvey / The Wallflowers (S26 E3)”

  1. Yikes… some of those comments do not age terribly well and come across a bit homophobic today (gay kissing as “sick shit,” etc.) Despite all that, I’ve always been a fan of your reviews and I’m glad you’re a lot more aware of the impact of your words now! 🙂

    Keep writin’ em and I’ll keep readin’!

    1. “Yikes… some of those comments do not age terribly well and come across a bit homophobic today (gay kissing as “sick shit,” etc.)”

      I assume you’re referring to my original review of the VH1 Storytellers sketch from the Tom Green episode. I’ve actually been planning on addressing the unfortunate homophobic attitude of my original review of that sketch when I re-review the Tom Green episode a few days from now. Yesterday, I skimmed through my original review of that episode, and believe you me, I cringed like crazy at how homophobic my review of that Storytellers sketch comes off. I was shocked at that review, but then again, times were different when that review was written back in 2000, plus I was a typical immature 16-year-old at the time. I’m definitely going to be addressing the now-un-PC nature of that Storytellers review when I re-review that episode soon.

  2. The exchange about the “Black Draculas” being both a way to describe Count Chocula and the gang vexing Gordon has stuck with me all these years.

    Not too surprisingly (I was in middle school), the “wiener or taco” bit was what got talked about Monday on the bus.

    Hey, It’s 2000!: Church Lady and her lookalikes is a reference to Eminem’s recent performance at the MTV Video Music Awards.

  3. I’ve read over some of your reviews from 00-14 since I first saw the link on your blog last fall – they’re a fascinating look into those years as they played out. I quit around ’03 because I had to face that what I wanted to see from SNL just wasn’t going to happen, and I couldn’t take what the show had become. If I’d known then that there would be a new and generally much easier to enjoy cast on the way within a few years, I might have stuck around, but there’s something uniquely excruciating about following SNL as it airs instead of going back and following the arcs in a shorter space of time. Through your eyes we are getting both experiences.

    Anyway, this episode is hard to find a full copy of – fortunately there are a fair amount of clips on NBC’s site so the main part I’m missing I wish I could see is Church Chat. I think I watched this at the time because I remember being a bit thrown by that Ching Change sketch, but for the most part my memories are distant. I suppose the best part of this sketch is if you ever need a trivia question about which recurring sketch featured both Nora Dunn and Horatio Sanz.

    At the time these aired, I was more fatigued with Carvey’s Bush-era impressions than I am now; I can just enjoy them a little more (he pretty much makes this debate sketch for me, although I also enjoy the idiot voter question from Kattan and the blatant audience plant from Fallon). The main difference with Carvey and most who have followed him as heralded Presidential impressionists for SNL is that he also seemed to enjoy himself. In this monologue, for instance, he throws around lighthearted impressions of GWB, Gore, and Lieberman, with nothing else behind them. We would later hear of or see the struggles or regrets of Darrell Hammond (the pain he went through to get Gore right), Ferrell (who would go on to play GWB in a progressive ad campaign in 2004), Kate McKinnon (crying as she sang “Hallelujah” onstage after the 2016 election), etc. 2000 was probably the last time SNL could fully see the election as something that didn’t really have much impact beyond who they could get on the show for cameos and generic “everybody sucks” commentary. It’s only fitting that Carvey returned to pass the torch into the more navel-gazing, angst-ridden 20 years and counting…

    I was very amused that the talk show hosts who got fart-related commentary were Bill Maher and Charlie Rose.

    This is a decent enough Delicious Dish but other than the gag about the Great Pumpkin being part of Molly’s religious beliefs, nothing in here makes me feel they should have kept it going after the perfect DeVito installment. Why they kept going with Rachel in place of Molly baffles me even more.

    McKay’s Update piece is the type of edgy material I wish we’d gotten more of; it helped keep Update a little more grounded and less of the smugfest it would soon become.

  4. The Magic Mouth commercial is one of my personal favorites. Does anybody know who did the voice of the device? They need a medal.

    Magic Mouth: “Did you catch Charlie Rose last night?”
    Old Lady: “Why, yes.”

  5. The random inclusion of the Baha Men’s “performance” continues to baffle me. Was it network pressure because I do not see “2000 Lorne” willingly agreeing to such a cameo.

    1. According to Wikipedia, the 2000 Mets used a special version of this as their theme song, and this aired on the first night of the Subway Series, so…? Maybe? That’s all I have.

    2. RoseArt and chris, SNL was doing a lot of band shot cameos during season 25 & 26. This is not really much different from having Savion Glover cameo during the Norm MacDonald show last season. As for Who Let The Dogs Out, chris you’re partially right about the Mets role in this, the Mariners first played it in June 2000 and it caught on in a big way at sporting events that year.

  6. The monologue in retrospect is very good, pretty much classic Carvey, but when it aired live the freshness of it was lessened because Dana did the same basic routine on Late Night w/ Conan that Thursday.

    Two bits of SNL minutiae: 1. Parnell’s Eminem didn’t wear a hat in dress rehearsal
    https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/episode-3-aired-pictured-chris-parnell-as-eminem-dana-news-photo/138217089

    2. I remember people discussing in a live discussion thread about why Dana saying “The Mets 3, the Yankees 2!” Is a thing that actually happened when in the debate cold open of the Kate Hudson episode Parnell’s Jim Lehrer saying “Matt Franco has reached third on a wild pitch” was something that was made up for the sketch.

    The DeNiro appearance, which I admit was fun to see at the time, doesn’t age well at all because it’s the same “I’m Robert DeNiro and i’m about to half ass my way through the next five minutes” vibe that will plague his appearances as Robert Mueller.

    Dana’s Rudy Boesch impression is pretty good and the bit does a good job at pointing out how dumb of an idea having reality show contestants present at award shows.

  7. I wasn’t sure if Dana makes any cameos until his next hosting gig but looking at SNL Archives it seems that he didn’t. It’s a credit to Dana that he didn’t endlessly pop up for attention and quick applause, like certain former cast members, but I’m sorry he didn’t get in one more hosting appearance between 2000 and 2011. The 2011 episode is fairly threadbare and at times he’s the only one holding the material together.

  8. I don’t remember much about the 2011 show other than it looked like Wiig seemed to be trying to outshine .Dana in the Regis and Kelly sketch. I can remember some posters at the old snl.com board saying she was borderline unprofessional there

  9. This was Dana’s first time hosting where not a single cast member overlapped with his tenure on the show.

    He does a pretty good job fitting in…I really like his appearance on Delicious Dish. And I agree with other posters here that it was incredibly weird that they continued this sketch even after Molly left (I love Rachel Dratch…but wow, they were a pale imitation) Anyway, I also like this Church Lady. And it’s always fun to see Carvey’s Bush. The monologue is great to.

    However, bringing back Ching Change for the 10-to-1…? What were they thinking? … 🙂 Pretty awful. It’s not like Ching was a popular character for Dana that fans were clamoring for a return…oh well, at least it’s buried at the end of the show. It’s still pretty crazy to me that they brought back the character though.

  10. This may be a bit of a stretch, but I think SNL ripped off the “Magic Mouth” ad.

    Show of hands, how many of you remember the old trivia game “You Don’t Know Jack”? At the end of each game (in the end credits), there would be a series of fake radio ads being played. One particular ad was a part of one of their games (release: c1996); not sure if there have been other “fart Translator” pieces of comedy pre-dating this, but this one always stuck out…

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