May 1, 2004 – Lindsay Lohan / Usher (S29 E18)

Segments are rated on a scale of 1-5 stars

PREPARATION
Dick Cheney (DAH) coaches George W. Bush (WLF) before 9/11 testimony

— It’s both odd and kinda redundant how this is the second consecutive cold opening with Darrell’s Dick Cheney preparing someone for their 9/11 testimony (Condoleezza Rice last time, President Bush this time).
— Will makes his first appearance as present-day Bush, after previously playing young Bush in a 1960s sketch.
— President Bush: “I’m George W. Bush, and I approve this muffin.”
— Dick Cheney to President Bush, regarding the public’s perception of him: “They think you’re like Rain Man… without the math skills.”
— Bush reading his answers off of his leg is really funny.
— Is it just me, or does Darrell’s Cheney voice sound kinda hoarse in this cold opening? Is Darrell under the weather this week?
— Some pretty good laughs from Bush’s various examples of body language.
— Will’s Bush impression continues to be a lot of fun and a big step up from both Chris and Darrell’s takes on Bush. It also helps that Will has been given better writing here than Chris and Darrell typically got in their respective Bush sketches.
STARS: ***½


MONOLOGUE
host, Hilary Duff (RAD), Avril Lavigne (AMP) end their respective feuds

— Seeing a young, baby-faced, loaded-with-potential Lindsay Lohan makes 2004 feel so long ago.
— Oh, the innocent days where the worst thing that could be seen about Lindsay Lohan in a tabloid is her little “teen queen” feud with Hilary Duff.
— The return of Amy’s Avril Lavigne, which never fails to amuse me. What makes it even more amusing this time around is the fact that Avril Lavigne is actually the musical guest in the very next episode.
— Chris: “When do you turn 18?” Hilary Duff: “(in a gleeful manner) Never!”
STARS: ***


TURLINGTON’S LOWER BACK TATTOO REMOVER
Turlington’s (CHP) Lower Back Tattoo Remover erases age-discrepant art

— A huge laugh from the time-lapsed sequence of a “Pretty Lady” tattoo on a thin woman’s back turning into the words “Pretty Sad” when her body has grown much older and saggier. I remember when this originally aired back in 2004, I didn’t even notice that the sagging tattoo read “Pretty Sad”, and thus, I didn’t understand why Chris subsequently said the line “Pretty sad indeed.”
— Great bit with Amy exclaiming “Mother(*bleep*)!” in response to the tattoo remover burning her skin.
— As usual, Chris is fantastic as the spokesperson.
— Very funny ending bit about Amy having a child from a crazy weekend in Jamaica.
STARS: ****


JARRET’S ROOM
stoner (host) moves in & meets a weed-smoking robot

— This ends up being the final Jarret’s Room sketch.
— I remember when tonight’s episode originally aired, I and some other online SNL fans were surprised that SNL didn’t save Jarret’s Room for the following week’s episode, given a certain weed-lover who’s hosting that night (you’ll see who it is at the every end of this review) and who seemed like he would fit perfectly into the weed-centric Jarret’s Room.
— Wow, DJ Jonathan Feinstein’s Britney Spears/Toxic bit got cut off surprisingly fast by Jarret. Was SNL afraid of giving some viewers certain “feelings” over seeing Seth in that bodysuit?
— For once, Gobi makes a straightforward entrance instead of one of his trademark weed-centric gimmicky entrances.
— Jarret mentions that he and Gobi are finally moving off campus after tonight’s episode. I recall how, when this originally aired, many online SNL fans took this as a sign that Jimmy’s leaving SNL at the end of this season. IIRC, Jimmy’s departure wouldn’t be publicly confirmed until earlier in the same day of his final episode.
— A funny asinine flashback sequence of something that we saw happen literally just a few seconds ago.
— The Will Forte-voiced weed-smoking robot is absolutely stealing this sketch and is making this easily one of the better Jarret’s Room installments. A good way for this recurring sketch to go out.
STARS: ***½


HOGWARTS ACADEMY
Hermione’s (host) newfound cleavage bewitches Harry Potter (RAD)

— Hoo, boy. Here comes a sketch that…uh, will certainly be…uh, interesting to discuss by today’s standards.
— And there famously walks in Lindsay as a cleavage-sporting Hermoine.
— As just a 19-year-old when this sketch originally aired during the less-self-aware year of 2004, I had no issue with SNL doing a sketch inappropriately centering around a 17-year-old’s cleavage. 19-year-old me even partook in this sketch’s male characters’ ogling of said cleavage, as much as I don’t want to admit that anymore. Now that I’m in my mid-30s and times have certainly changed, I’m able to recognize how troublesome this sketch is. It’s a shame that this sketch doesn’t hold up too well anymore, because I recall liking this sketch a lot back when it originally aired… and, no, not just because of Lindsay’s cleavage. 19-year-old me got a lot of laughs from the sketch’s humor, performances, and plenty of what I deemed to be quote-worthy lines. (Unfortunately, my old review for this episode that I did back in 2004 when this episode originally aired is lost, unlike most of the other season 29 reviews that I originally did back then.) The fact that Harry Potter was something I was never into, and yet this sketch could still get a lot out laughs out of 19-year-old me says a lot about this sketch.
— An amusing visual of Horatio entering in that wig and beard.
— Ugh, right after I give Horatio a compliment, he has to piss all over it by cracking up at himself as usual.
STARS: **½


RIDING WITH BILLY JOEL
erratic chauffeur Billy Joel (HOS) sings while driving recklessly

— A funny spoof of Billy Joel’s drunk-driving woes from around this time, even if it feels kinda wrong for SNL to spoof such a thing. (Then again, the Harry Potter sketch that I had just watched prior to this sketch has kinda numbed me to other cases of “wrong” humor on SNL).
— I’ve been one of Horatio’s harshest critics this season, and even *I* can admit that he’s doing a killer job in his portrayal of a drunken Billy Joel.
— A memorable blooper in which a mailbox that gets thrown onto the car from off-camera gets stuck on the windshield accidentally, which completely blocks the performers from the camera, leaving the female performers in genuine hysterics. Horatio solves this predicament with an ad-lib in which he leans out of the car window to his side and uses his beer bottle to shove the mailbox off of the windshield. Excellent save from Horatio.
— Speaking of the mailbox, I wonder if that’s the same mailbox that was used in a similar manner then-recently in the Donnie G. And Sidecar sketch from the Ben Affleck episode.
— Wow, a particularly over-the-top shriek of “YOU NEED HELP, BUSTER!!!” from Maya to Horatio’s Billy Joel.
STARS: ****


MUSICAL PERFORMANCE
musical guest & Ludacris [real] perform “Yeah!”


WEEKEND UPDATE
list-loving Jorge Rodriguez (HOS) failed the GED test many times

— A very odd and unprecedented moment in SNL history occurs right now, in which, right as Jimmy’s about to deliver a joke (a Donald Trump joke, no less), a voice from a real audience member actually interrupts the show by audibly calling out “Hey, Jimmy?”, and Jimmy immediately turns towards the voice in the audience and responds “Yeah?” (which says something about Jimmy, as I feel most Weekend Update anchors would’ve just ignored an audience member calling out their name). The audience member then says what sounds like “Yeah, up here” (it’s hard to tell exactly what he said, as he’s speaking from quite a distance and obviously isn’t mic’ed), and Jimmy just goes “I’ll talk to you later on, my brother” and then ad-libs towards the camera “I hate when my father gets drunk” (which I swear is an ad-lib Jimmy also used in a previous Update, but I’m not 100% sure). There’s actually a backstory to this whole incident. According to an online comment in 2004 from an SNL fan who stood on the standby line to get tickets for this episode, there was a guy on the line who kept obnoxiously bragging to everybody that if he gets a ticket to the show, he’s going to make SNL history by interrupting the show from the audience and asking Jimmy Fallon a question during Weekend Update. Most of the people on the standby line probably assumed the guy was just bluffing, but as they later saw, he ended up following through on his word.
— The Bill Clinton book cover that SNL made up (first screencap below) reminds me a lot of a made-up book cover that SNL used in a presidential address cold opening that Darrell’s Clinton did in the Julianne Moore episode from season 23 (second screencap below).

— Meh, another Horatio Update commentary with him interacting with Jimmy, which almost always spells doom.
— Horatio’s at least not going off the rails with typical unfunny ad-libs and laughing-at-himself antics that his Update commentaries often feature, but ugh, this commentary with his character listing off a whole bunch of things is comedy death to me.
— When Horatio’s character asks if anyone’s seen his friend Pepe, Jimmy ad-libs “I think he was just up there”, pointing towards the portion of the audience that the aforementioned audience member who interrupted Jimmy earlier in tonight’s Update was seated. When the audience is laughing and applauding this ad-lib of Jimmy’s, Jimmy can be heard saying “He got removed”, acknowledging that the audience member got kicked out for his interruption.
— Tonight’s Update is doing quite a number of callbacks to bits Jimmy and Tina did earlier this season, such as Jimmy and Tina’s conversation about dirty Dutch terms, and the punchline of an STD joke being Jimmy turning to a side camera and saying “You’re welcome”.
STARS: **½


DEBBIE DOWNER
at Disney World, gloomy Debbie Downer (RAD) dispirits a family reunion

— Oh, here’s a VERY famous SNL sketch.
— My first laugh in this sketch comes from Kenan’s name being Billiam. Even just his delivery of that name is inherently funny.
— I like how the opening title sequence and theme music feel kinda like a throwback to SNL’s late 80s/early 90s era, which had tons of characters with their own opening title sequence and theme song. I recall this Debbie Downer sketch being the beginning of somewhat of a revival of title sequences and theme songs for recurring characters, as we’ll be seeing quite a number of them the following two seasons.
— Naturally, Jimmy and Horatio are the very first performers to break in this sketch (the fifth above screencap for this sketch), while the other performers initially remain unfazed.
— And there we go. Rachel’s line flub, “The media’s so sensitive there… so secretive…”, as well as Jimmy’s laughter at said line flub, is what officially causes Rachel to start losing it, setting off a chain reaction around the table. The famous widespread meltdown has officially begun.
— Wow. Just wow. It is truly something to see this sketch gradually meltdown so badly. Very unprecedented in SNL history up to this point. (Seems to be quite a number of unprecedented moments happening tonight). I’m usually against how unprofessional this particular SNL cast has slowly been becoming around this season, and of course, I’ve been very vocal of my dislike of the undeserved free rein Jimmy and Horatio are often given to carelessly derail sketches with their laughing and other unprofessional antics, but goddammit, everybody’s breaking is a fucking RIOT in this sketch, and their simultaneous laughter combined with the audience’s uproarious reactions is very infectious.
— What makes Rachel’s breaking here even funnier is the fact that, as part of the sketch, the camera has to frequently do “Wah-wahhhhh” zoom-ins on Debbie Downer’s face, and thus, we get lots of zoom-ins of Rachel fighting unsuccessfully to keep a straight face so she can do her character’s trademark deadpan looks into the zoomed-in camera.
— Now here comes one PARTICULARLY epic part, and the moment that, in my opinion, officially propels this sketch into legendary status: Rachel literally crying with laughter when struggling to deliver the big line “By the way, it’s official: I can’t have children.” A freakin’ classic moment.
— Another truly classic moment right now, with Horatio being seen using a fucking MICKEY MOUSE WAFFLE to wipe off his tears from laughter.
— Fred is the ONLY performer keeping a straight face (aside from what appeared to be genuine giggling from him after he and the others posed together for a photo). According to an SNL fan who went to this episode and was also among a crowd of people outside 30 Rock getting autographs from cast members after the show, Fred, while giving autographs, was asked why he didn’t join in on his fellow performers’ laughing in the Debbie Downer sketch. Fred explained that he had no clue why they were laughing and he didn’t feel that he should laugh just because THEY were laughing. A very admirable display of professionalism from Fred. Too bad it wouldn’t last, though, as his later seasons on the show are quite fraught with breaking from him, especially whenever he teams up with Bill Hader.
— Overall, a historic, legendary, and hilarious meltdown among the performers, with a few very memorable and great little ad-libs, making this sketch an all-timer. I can definitely see some people finding this sketch overrated, but for me, this sketch deserves the hype.
— It’s really too bad that the importance and novelty of this sketch is slightly diminished by the fact that SNL would turn this into a recurring sketch later on – a bad decision. It should’ve been obvious to SNL that the only reason this first Debbie Downer sketch was such an instant hit is because of the huge extent that the performers broke during it. The written material itself was only mildly funny at best. And the very tepid, blooper-less second installment of this sketch, in the following season’s Ben Affleck-hosted season premiere, pretty much bombs with the audience and further proves how not-so-great the written material behind Debbie Downer always was, and how wrong it was for SNL to assume people wanted to see more of these sketches without the performers breaking.
STARS: *****


CLUB TRAXX
hook of young pop duo D.A.D.I. (RAD) & (host) is lesbianism

— Ugh, this sketch once again. This thankfully ends up being the final installment.
— The clip of Amy performing dance music onstage (the second above screencap for this sketch) truly looks like something straight out of Deep House Dish, a recurring sketch that SNL would debut a few seasons later (and would draw my ire, as I I recall absolutely despising those sketches with a fiery passion back when they originally aired). It even looks like Amy’s performance in this Club Traxx sketch is using the exact same Deep House Dish performance stage and exact same Deep House Dish onscreen graphic of the  singer’s name and title of the song they’re performing, though I’m only going by my memory of what Deep House Dish typically looked like (I haven’t watched an installment of that sketch in ages).
— I’m getting a pretty good laugh from Will’s open-shirt performance.
— The D.A.D.I. stuff with Rachel and Lindsay is doing nothing for me.
— Nothing else to say so far. I’ve complained enough about this recurring sketch in past installments, and am ready to happily see this sketch enter retirement.
STARS: *½


SLEEPOVER
hyper preteen Kaitlin (AMP) welcomes sleepover veteran (host) to her home

— The debut of another recurring sketch that I recall despising with a fiery passion back when it originally aired. I’ll try to go into this debut with an open mind tonight, as I’ve seen some people make a good case when defending this recurring sketch.
— This recurring sketch debut was cut from the preceding episode, where I assume host Janet Jackson played the same role Lindsay is playing here.
— I’m actually finding a slice-of-life-ish charm to this sketch, just like defenders of this recurring sketch always claim it has. I especially like the charm of Amy-as-Kaitlin’s interactions with Horatio’s Rick, particularly when he helps get her out of a lie she told Lindsay regarding having a pool. Also, as people always point out about these sketches, it’s astounding how the usually breakable Horatio is consistently able to keep a straight face at Amy screaming in his face.
STARS: ***


MUSICAL PERFORMANCE
musical guest performs “Burn”


17TH ANNUAL ADULT MOVIE AWARDS
fear of FCC produces truncated broadcast

— Some pretty good cheap laughs from the endless barrage of fictional porn star names.
— I like the little joke of some non-porn-star celebrity names being thrown into the mix, such as Jimmy Kimmel and SNL’s own Darrell Hammond.
STARS: ***


GOODNIGHTS


IMMEDIATE POST-SHOW THOUGHTS
— A fun episode; in fact, it’s easily one of the more upbeat episodes of this season. This episode wasn’t perfect, but, unlike a lot of this season’s episodes, it had a consistently entertaining and fun vibe that made even some of the misfires more forgivable. There were even some all-time memorable and funny bloopers, such as the Billy Joel mailbox-on-the-windshield incident and the entire Debbie Downer sketch.


MY PERSONAL CHOICE OF “BEST OF” MOMENTS FOR THIS EPISODE, REPRESENTED WITH SCREENCAPS


HOW THIS EPISODE STACKS UP AGAINST THE PRECEDING ONE (Janet Jackson)
a mild step up


My full set of screencaps for this episode is here


TOMORROW
Snoop Dogg

31 Replies to “May 1, 2004 – Lindsay Lohan / Usher (S29 E18)”

    1. The second most watched sketch is an Amy Schumer porn parody.

      WTF?

      It’s not even that funny.

  1. I’ve got a soft spot for Kaitlin simply because it’s the same voice Amy used for the main character of “The Mighty B!”, an extremely underrated cartoon she created for Nickelodeon a few years later.

  2. I thought Hogwarts Academy was funny then too even though I was much older than 19 by then. Looking at the screencaps right now, I can see why it would be more problematic in this MeToo era though I’m thinking I’d still find it pretty funny considering most of the characters are supposed to adolescents who supposedly don’t know better. As for Debbie Downer, yes the breaking up is what makes this very funny and the subsequent more straight performed ones aren’t as entertaining. But they can still be humorous because of Rachel’s delivery and that “wah-wah-wah” music effect. I certainly liked her last one about the coronavirus on the last Studio 8H show that was hosted by Daniel Craig… Oh, and I always got some enjoyment out of the Kaitlin and Rick sketches…

  3. They were probably hoping to strike gold twice with more breaking in the Affleck Debbie Downer, but it never comes. If you read the YouTube comments of any installment other than the Disney one, it’s obvious that the breaking is the only reason most people enjoy that sketch. It’s strange how much they kept trying with that character.

    I don’t know if it’s Debbie Downer or Stefon (or maybe Horatio?) that’s the demarcation point of SNL becoming completely fine with character breaking. It’s gotten a LOT more common now. Some of the more recent sketches almost seem designed from the ground-up to cause it.

    The sexualization of an underaged Lohan is really weird to view through modern eyes, and the fact that everyone was okay with that just 15 or so years ago is baffling to think about now. As Brady said, the Harry Potter sketch is the most viewed SNL sketch of all time on YouTube. Disappointing but not surprising.

    Other than that, yeah, this is one of the better S29 shows. It’s chaotic but not in an entirely annoying way. I always have a soft spot for Kaitlin. And Forte’s Bush is goofy enough to cut through the dryness of Downey’s writing most of the time (if we’re to assume he wrote all the Forte Bush material.)

    1. I vaguely recall watching the 2004-05 Affleck season premiere episode on Netflix and seeing white text on black background (I think with accompanying voiceover) saying they were substituting the dress rehearsal version of the Debbie Downer sketch simply because it worked better. That version had the breaking that the live version didn’t.

    2. After Fred and Bill left, I remember that the breaking died down for a while only for it to be standard after the Close Encounter sketch

    3. I can sort of see why they kept trying with Debbie Downer, as they were desperate for a hit at this time and Debbie did enter the public psyche very quickly (and has stayed there, which is how we got this back 16 years later [I guess if there was ever a time for that character to return, it was 2020]). Of course that doesn’t mean they should have kept trying – there are some that are enjoyable but other times you can just feel them trying to set up a break (the last before Rachel leaves as a cast member is one).

      I think the change happened with Bill/Kristen/Fred. It was easy to dismiss Jimmy and Horatio as frat boys or overgrown kids, if you wanted to, but not so much with them, especially since it wasn’t so all-consuming with their work. (Kristen also helped establish the theater kid onscreen vibe that we are [presumably] in our last years of).

  4. I’m not the first one to make this observation, but I feel bad for Seth and Parnell that their most viewed YouTube moments are them hummina-hummina-hummina-ing at a 17 year old’s chest.

  5. Was it the s 30 or s 31 show where Tina gets Lohan to host to essentially do an intervention on her?

    I can’t remember which season it was but LL looked in real rough shape during that episode

    1. Lohan seems worst for wear in the 31 episode, of the three – not counting the ’12 episode, as her career was mostly over by then and while the ratings were strong, I still wonder if it was an act of pity. (it’s actually pretty sad to watch her first two episodes as she truly does give her all)

      There’s a cameo in Colin Farrell’s episode which sort of showcases the hypocrisy of how Tina treated her – she was concerned, yes, but the “don’t go out partying” type message is undercut by Tina and Amy saying they want to go out partying with her. Similar to how, while I’m sure Tina did block more tasteless sketches from this hosting stint, we still got this somewhat tacky (to me) promo.

  6. This aired the day after MEAN GIRLS premiered in theaters. Yes, I saw it three times. I remember Tina Fey being on Conan that week saying how she kept having to remind the writers that Lindsay was only 17, so who knows how bawdy some of the stuff could have been. That said — and maybe because I was also 17 when this aired — the Hermoine sketch isn’t bothersome to me. In the second half of MEAN GIRLS, she wears form-fitting clothes to accentuate her figure and her character becoming a Plastic. The joke of the sketch isn’t necessarily her having boobs, but of Harry and Ron not being mature enough to get past them, because boys are stupid.

    Another reason Debbie Downer is so funny is because while Jimmy and Horatio just give up, the others valiantly try and it’s fun to see that difference. Even Lindsay gives it her all when she has to rant at a Rachel. “You are completely ruining my trip to Disney World!”

  7. Parnell in the Harry Potter sketch looks eeriliy like Taran Killam.

    A fun episode, as, well, a lot of Lohan’s episodes were, oddly enough. While this is far from the greatest era of the show, you at least didn’t get a sinking ship feeling–maybe even the converse, as you get sometimes a S20-esque, well, everyone’s having so much fun but I’m not, vibe.

    I always theorized the Kaitlin sketches were a rib on Horatio, as they basically seemed to be designed to make him break, which he never or rarely did.

    Debbie Downer is an example of a sketch working because everything goes to hell. While, as you point out, straightforward Debbie Downer sketches don’t work, I find some of the later ones to be okay due to some occasional changes in format. The other Rachel Dratch sketch I remember where everything goes to hell is the one where she is appears on the TV in the hotel room of Peter Sarsgaard.

  8. By default Lohan’s best episode as host. Horatio didn’t annoy me in this episode, which is no small feat. I wonder if he’s still looking for Pepe.

    This is only the fourth time we’ve seen a Dubya impression all season, which practically makes you assume there was a lot of hemming and hawing behind the scenes about who should play the president.

  9. By this time they seemed to have settled on that DJ character wearing revealing outfits for a joke or to distract from iffy writing or what have you. Based on that “I agree” when Jimmy remarked on how he looked, I wonder if Seth felt a bit awkward about the outfit as well and didn’t really want to be shown much in it.

    If that wasn’t the reason, then, well, if any cast member of these years was going to make viewers feel things they couldn’t explain, it would probably be Seth…

    I hated most of the Jarret’s Room sketches, but this was a fun way to go out – the addition of Will as the pot-smoking robot, Lindsay an able co-star, not as much time spent on Horatio mugging.

    Jimmy brought this back with Horatio last week (no one else involved, although Seth tweeted so maybe he’ll be in one eventually). I surprised myself by enjoying the revival. It helps that Horatio was so much more subdued.

  10. I actually listed to this episode on the radio…yes the radio. Our NBC affiliate would simulcast on some low end FM station. I was off work at 10:30 and didn’t want to miss anything even though I was recording it. There was an accident and I was stuck waiting and listened to the entire show. Even sound only you knew Debbie Downer was going to be a thing most wouldn’t forget.

    Also the Adult Movie Awards sketch was a filler that was around for years. I think in the A&E backstage documentary on the Gwyneth Paltrow/Ryan Adams show there is a scene where Higgins is reading it during read through.

  11. Agree with Stooge on Debbie Downer, I could pick the sketch itself apart or lament the crutch of corpsing, but the whole thing really is a fabulous disaster and its energy is infectious as hell. I think SNL burned a season trying to recreate the spectacle of this sketch and the next few installments feel a bit lifeless, but it’s still pretty solid on paper and it ultimately rounded into form closer to the end of Dratch’s tenure.

    Also put me down as a big fan of the Kaitlin sketches. Basically all of them. I think they’re one of the big saving graces of the 04-05 season. Cute and charming is a tenuous balance on SNL and the little girl character is a pretty standard trope, but I feel like the Kaitlin sketches are very grounded and relatable and Poehler’s characterization is spot on. These are Judy Miller caliber sketches. For his part, Sanz is fabulous too. I think he loses control when he has to play “big,” but as a straight man, he’s surprisingly effective.

    1. The Caitlin sketches remind me of Judy Miller in that it’s something else I think worked best on a very limited basis (Amy was still doing these all the way up to 2007). Amy’s “ain’t-I-cute” persona, which pops up here, as Sharon Osborne, and on Update, among other places, always feels manufactured to me (she has even said she got her little girl character from Gilda’s work) compared to her strongest work. This first one, and a few of the others, have a charm, but I think less is more.

    2. As with all things on SNL, less is more – yes. I think Poehler’s “ain’t-I-cute” schtick reaches a fever pitch on Update, but with the Kaitlin (Caitlin, whatever) sketches, I tend to be the one saying “ain’t she cute.” She’s having a lot of goofy fun with the character, but there’s a realness to it that sets it apart. It’s definitely a character type that is not for everybody and I honestly can’t remember any of the sketches post-05, which probably speaks volumes, but for 04-05 they were an oasis in the desert.

    3. Oh you’re right, it’s Kaitlin. I was in a hurry.

      They do have their charm, and it’s some of Horatio’s best work.

  12. That moment when the man in the audience addresses Jimmy is oddly unnerving (the other people in the audience seem to agree). I wonder if Jimmy has ever spoken about it. He must have been at least a little scared. I know I would have been. He handled it like a pro.

    Horatio’s Update piece is everything I dislike about his tenure as a cast member. There is a genuinely funny ending, where he finally, after a long story, he says he’s on Update to find Pepe. I thought – OK, this was a good way to close. Instead, the joke goes on even longer, stretched out awkwardly because no one ever knew when it was time for him to stop.

  13. Man, imagine devising some hack way to “make history” as an audience member, only for it to get you thrown out right before some *actual* history would be made. This is the first I’ve ever heard of the Update incident–Debbie Downer, on the other hand, I’ve known since getting into SNL, at least, and most people into comedy or TV, in general, probably know it. I think it’s a much cooler brag to be able to say you were in the audience for an iconic sketch.

  14. Another SNL dress sketch showed up in Yahoo video during its brief run (2016), this time a Forte sketch from this episode.

    This one is tricky to explain: A mother (Maya) calls her daughter (Lindsey) to the bathroom while she’s taking a bubble-bath to announce she’s getting married again. The new stepfather (Forte a creepy mustached type) pops his head out of the bubble-bath (cuddling Maya during the sketch) to intro himself. What follows is your standard Forte verbal tomfoolery and dialogue mishmash. Armisen and Parnell eventually pop their head out of the bubble-bath as weird characters ( I think Parnell was a law official of some sort). The last thing I can tell you was Forte’s last line was very creepy but melded in the sketch in some way to lend some charm….

  15. I waited on the stand-by line for this episode and got into the dress rehearsal. I remember the Debbie Downer sketch got set up right by me. They were cracking up in the dress version too, but not as hilariously out of control as in the live version. It was mostly just a usual Jimmy/Horatio crack up in the dress rehearsal. I also remember the cut sketch with Maya in the bubble bath. That was the strongest received of the 4 cut sketches. It probably should have made it to the live show. I also remember the weird guy that shouted out to Jimmy during Weekend Update. They guy was on the stand-by line with us the night before and was really annoying. I think he had been a semi regular to the line before that, and after that show he got himself banned.

  16. If you’re reading this, you may remember that the Matusiks (sp?), the family in the “Debbie Downer” sketch, were from Ohio. Well, today is the 17th anniversary of this episode, and Ohio cicadas are having their own family reunion, so to speak. Hope it’s a lot of laughs. https://bit.ly/3tbVTCH

  17. Hard disagree on Debbie Downer only working this one time. I think it’s a great character that continued to work. Maybe for some people, this installment set the bar too high? Either way, the sketch still got consistently good reactions, even without breaking.
    (On the other hand, your review of the Harry Potter sketch is right on the money.)

  18. This was the season I started watching live, and this was the first episode where I really felt like I was watching a special episode.

    Lohan was my first crush of my pubescent years (I was 13 when this aired), so I can still watch the Harry Potter sketch as a nice bit of ribald fun as well as with a sense of nostalgia. I totally get why people find it skeevy now, and in retrospect it’s deeply unnerving that the media was having a countdown to Lohan turning 18.

    The Billy Joel sketch is probably my favorite sketch Horatio ever did. It’s such an absurdly fun sketch. I actually enjoyed the Pepe commentary, too, though I’m not sure why.

    Watching Debbie Downer in real time was just incredible. An unforgettable moment of comedic chaos. I don’t like the followups (the Christmas one is good), and I don’t like shift it initiated in the show’s attitude toward breaking, but it earns its stripes as a classic.

    I wonder Lohan would do now that she seemingly has happiness and stability in her life. For whatever was going on in her personal life at the time, she always seemed to have fun on SNL.

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