March 15, 2008 – Jonah Hill / Mariah Carey (S33 E8)

Segments are rated on a scale of 1-5 stars

SPITZER & ASSOCIATES
in private practice, Eliot Spitzer (BIH) will handle sex-related cases

— Good to see a change of pace from all the Hillary/Obama cold openings that the show had been doing lately. Also great to see Bill play the lead in a cold opening, which feels very rare in these early seasons of his SNL tenure.
— I like the voice Bill’s doing here. 12 years after this Eliot Spitzer scandal, I now no longer have any recollection of what Spitzer’s voice sounds like, but I recall finding Bill’s vocal impression of him to be spot-on when this originally aired.
— A good laugh from the “1-800-T-A-W-D-R-Y” phone number.
— Without even saying a single word in this entire cold opening, Kristen is still doing such great work conveying the anger of her role as Spitzer’s wife.
— I absolutely HOWLED at Bill-as-Spitzer’s initially-calm-then-suddenly-loudly-angry delivery of “You, by the side of the road, wrapped in PLASTIC!!!!!
— Lots of pretty funny lines regarding the sex-related cases Spitzer and his law firm will take on.
— Good little touch with how, after Bill-as-Spitzer’s “Live from New York…”, instead of SNL immediately cutting to the opening montage like usual, the camera precedes the opening montage by panning over to a silent Kristen-as-Spitzer’s-wife’s frowny face, keeping up the theme of her having a cold, unhappy demeanor throughout this cold opening.
STARS: ***½


MONOLOGUE
to combat his crude big-screen image, host sings about how he is fancy

— OH, GOD. A musical monologue for the second consecutive episode? Come on, SNL.
— I do like Jonah’s “fancy dance”, at least.
— A fairly funny cutaway to Amy as Jonah’s Grandma Nancy.
— An unintentional laugh from Jonah’s line flub when he tells us, through song, to “kliss” his classy ass.
STARS: **


MACGRUBER
competency questions bring about a crisis of confidence for MacGruber

— Feels pretty nice to see a MacGruber short right after the monologue for once.
— Due to Maya Rudolph’s then-recent departure from the show, the regular character played by her in these MacGruber shorts has been replaced with a new soon-to-be regular character played by Kristen.
— A pretty good laugh from the obligatory end-of-sketch explosion happening right at the turn where MacGruber suddenly starts to ask, in a worried, sincere voice, “You really think I’m not good at my jo–”.
STARS: ***½


WHAT’S YOUR SITUATION?
emcee (host) thinks game show is a singles bar

— Not too sure about this premise.
— I like Casey’s delivery of “Because….I….love my husband….?” when unhappily asked by a sleazy Jonah why she’s married.
— Jonah is at least executing this fairly well, surprisingly.
— I don’t know why, but in a weird way, this sketch feels to me kinda like a poor man’s precursor to the following season’s superior I’m Gonna Have Sex With Your Wife game show sketch with Bradley Cooper, despite that sketch having pretty much a completely different concept than the one this sketch has.
— I spoke a bit too soon in my compliment of Jonah’s performance, as his timing seemed kinda off at the end.
— At least this overall sketch was pretty short, but that may have been part of the problem, as it kinda feels like they didn’t really explore this concept enough. Then again, I’m not sure what else they could’ve done with this concept.
STARS: **


SIX YEAR OLD
precocious 6 year-old Adam (host) treats Benihana like a Borscht Belt gig

— The debut of what would go on to be a staple of most Jonah Hill-hosted episodes (I think his 2016 episode has been the only one without this sketch, as of 2020).
— Solid concept of Jonah playing a very precocious six-year-old who talks like a Borscht Belt comedian.
— Jonah is strong here, and his performance is a lot of fun. I’m also loving his endless amount of wisecracks.
— Overall, a great debut. We’ll see how I’ll feel about the subsequent installments of this sketch. I remember being so increasingly frustrated that those installments take place in the EXACT SAME Benihana location that this first installment took place in. So lazy. There are so many promising locations you can place Jonah’s character in. Why use the Benihana setting EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME?
STARS: ****


MACGRUBER
MacGruber’s paranoia over backstabbers results in abdication

— A very funny shot at the end of the opening title sequence, with MacGruber walking past the camera while rudely giving everyone the finger.
— This overall short, and the general conceit of tonight’s MacGruber shorts, was better than I had remembered it, but still don’t quite measure up to typical strong MacGruber shorts.
— Strangely, tonight’s SNL episode ends up not showing the third part of tonight’s MacGruber runner. It would be put online shortly after the original airing of this episode. From what my admittedly-fuzzy memory of it recalls, it involved Bill as some kind of therapist/trainer helping a very unconfident, practically-catatonic MacGruber in one of those control rooms that MacGruber and his assistants are always locked in, and the short ended with MacGruber aimlessly and repeatedly banging the leg of a chair onto a table before the obligatory end-of-sketch explosion.
STARS: ***½


THE SUZE ORMAN SHOW
financial questions receive thrifty responses from Suze Orman (KRW)

— The debut of Kristen’s Suze Orman impression. Wow, I had completely forgotten about this recurring Suze Orman sketch until now.
— Kristen’s portrayal of Orman is very funny, and her delivery of every single line she has is making them fun.
— I like the interplay between Kristen’s Orman and Jonah’s character.
STARS: ***½


ANDY’S DAD
ANS is distressed to learn that his dad (JID) is going out with host

— I remember finding this short to be a laugh riot when it originally aired in 2008, but the crass, cheap homoerotic premise doesn’t seem like the type of thing that will hold up quite as well in today’s age. Then again, Lonely Island has proven that they can make good shorts out of crass, cheap homoerotic premises and have it still hold up well today (e.g. Roy Rules, Iran So Far).
— A very interesting use of Jim Downey.
— Aaaaaand there goes the obligatory cheap, unnecessary, hacky attempt at a laugh with a man-on-man kiss (which I previously praised Lonely Island for refraining from doing in the aforementioned Iran So Far short). However, I do love how the kiss is immediately followed by a cutaway to a close-up of Andy with a VERY stern, frozen expression on his face (the sixth above screencap for this Digital Short).
— A big laugh from how Jonah lowering his head while laughing with Jim Downey turns into Jonah lowering his head further and going down on Jim below the camera view.
— Aside from the aforementioned kiss, I’m actually enjoying this short. Yet another example of Lonely Island executing a potentially-dodgy homoerotic premise well.
— Bill caps this short off well with his hilarious ending line, “We’ve been f(*bleep*)in’!”, followed by the screen doing a freeze-frame on him smiling at the camera while a random “Created by Lorne Michaels” credit is displayed onscreen.
STARS: ***½


MUSICAL PERFORMANCE
musical guest performs “Touch My Body”


WEEKEND UPDATE
incredulous SEM & AMP say “Really!?!” to Eliot Spitzer’s whoring

TRM’s electoral assessment- “black is the new president, bitch”

— Ha, the photo of Eliot Spitzer making a goofy-looking ashamed, disgraced face (the first above screencap for this Update) was shown a lot in the news and online back at this time, and used to always crack me up back then.
— Good ad-lib from Seth after Amy flubbed her Brita joke.
— Good to see Seth and Amy doing a “Really?!?” on the Spitzer scandal. This should be good.
— An overall pretty solid edition of “Really?!?”, even if it trailed off for me a little towards the end, though not even that was anything bad.
— Ha, not only does Colin Jost make his way into yet another comical Update photo, but we get to see him with what appears to be a natural beard! (the third-to-last above screencap for this Weekend Update)
— Tracy Morgan cameo!
— Tracy seems to have facially aged a lot in such a short amount of time since his last cameo prior to this, in the preceding season’s Alec Baldwin episode.
— As usual, Tracy is killing it here. He has an endless number of funny remarks. He’s even getting laughs from some of his non-verbal actions.
— Tracy brings up the “Bitch is the new black” declaration Tina Fey memorably made on Update three episodes prior, and has this epic rebuttal to it: “Bitch may be the new black…..but black is the new president, bitch.” Classic line.
STARS: ***½


TARGET
Target Lady advises daft fellow employee (host) on how to woo co-worker

— (*groan*)
— Well, at least we got a fairly long break from Target Lady, as her last appearance prior to this was in February 2007.
— Not caring for Jonah in this sketch. He’s trying too hard to play “quirky” and “twitchy”, and it’s coming off too forced.
— Seeing all those boxes of Nilla Wafers in Will’s shopping basket makes me hungry as hell. I haven’t had Nilla Wafers in ages.
STARS: **


NBC SPECIAL REPORT
Brian Williams (WLF) presents evidence proving John McCain (DAH) is old

— Hmm, something seems off about Will’s Brian Williams voice tonight. It’s not as spot-on as it was in the previous appearance Will’s Brian Williams impression made. He’s lacking the dry cadence of Williams’ voice that he nailed last time. Tonight, he just sounds like Will Forte talking in a slow voice.
— A pretty funny formal, professional announcement from Will’s Williams that “John McCain is, in fact, old.”
— The debut of Darrell’s John McCain impression.
— Just like I remember finding it to be, Darrell’s McCain impression is fine, but boring. I know that McCain himself is not exactly an exciting man to impersonate, but I’ve seen some actual funny McCain impressions from other comedians. Darrell’s take on McCain is just adequate, but nothing more. The idea of his boring McCain impression being paired with Fred’s awful (not to mention also-boring) Obama impression in the following season’s presidential debate sketches has me worried for how those sketches are going to turn out. Actually, I have only one Obama/McCain debate sketch to review anyway, as two of the three Obama/McCain debate sketches appear in Weekend Update Thursday specials.
— This is the second consecutive episode in which Fred has barely appeared in any sketches. I remember how, back at this time in 2008, I took Fred’s sudden huge drop in airtime as a sign that SNL was very hesitant to use him in sketches after the backlash he and SNL received for his then-new Obama impression. (For anyone wondering how strong that backlash was, well, you’re obviously aware that it wasn’t strong enough to get SNL to yank Fred out of the Obama role back at this time.)
— This sketch is basically just a parade of stereotypical jokes about old people, but it’s working decently enough, especially the bit with Fred and Amy questioning McCain.
STARS: ***


CLANCY T. BACHLERATT AND JACKIE SNAD SING SONGS ABOUT SPACESHIPS, TODDLERS, MODEL T. CARS & JARS OF BEER
Clancy T. Bachleratt (WLF) & Jackie Snad (KRW) do what the title above says

— Oh, I recall this being a fantastic bizarre Forte/Wiig sketch.
— Very funny reveal of the album title, seen above as the title of this sketch in my review. (There’s no way I’m typing all those words a second time.)
— Will and Kristen’s absurd toddler/beer jars/spaceship/Model T-related songs are absolutely PRICELESS.
— Wow, Jonah’s doing a great Horatio Sanz impression! Seriously, what’s going on with him? Why is he laughing his way through this entire sketch, for no apparent reason? (He’d later do the same thing in a J-Pop America Funtime Now sketch in his second hosting stint.) Did he…uh…take a little toke in his dressing room right before this sketch or something?
— The new National Anthem song at the end is particularly hilarious, made even funnier by Will’s insane facial expressions.
STARS: *****


MUSICAL PERFORMANCE
musical guest & T-Pain [real] perform “Migrate”


FACE TO FACE
upon meeting in real life, (CAW) finds that (host) is an online liar

Sadly, this sketch is strangely missing from the copy I’m currently watching of this episode. Too bad, as it features Casey Wilson in a fairly rare co-starring role. If you’re curious to see my thoughts on this sketch, read it here in the original 2008 review I did back when this episode originally aired (the sketch is titled “Online Dating” in my review). And a screencap can be seen here on SNL Archives’ page for this sketch, if you’re curious what this sketch looks like, given how mysterious and seemingly-forgotten the sketch is, and the fact that I can’t find an online video of it to link to.


GOODNIGHTS


IMMEDIATE POST-SHOW THOUGHTS
— A pretty good episode. Even though only about two or three things stood out to me as strong, most of the sketches were enjoyable, and there wasn’t much that dragged this episode down.


MY PERSONAL CHOICE OF “BEST OF” MOMENTS FOR THIS EPISODE, REPRESENTED WITH SCREENCAPS


HOW THIS EPISODE STACKS UP AGAINST THE PRECEDING ONE (Amy Adams)
about the same


My full set of screencaps for this episode is here


TOMORROW
Christopher Walken returns for his seventh and final (as of 2020) hosting stint

18 Replies to “March 15, 2008 – Jonah Hill / Mariah Carey (S33 E8)”

  1. I believe Paula Pell wrote all the Orman pieces.

    Pretty sure this is Downey’s last appearance on a live broadcast. He appears in a cut for time short online exclusive in the Martin .Short episode from S 38

    1. Downey makes one more live appearance next episode in Christopher Walken’s monologue, then several voice-overs until he leaves the show in 2013.
      His 2012 election material is decent, but this 2008 election is probably the last time his writing had any sort of bite to it. We’re in for some more-sluggish-than-usual “president drones to camera” opens starting next year.

  2. Nilla Wafers are the shizz.

    I’ve heard many people say they dislike Jonah Hill’s episodes and can’t fathom him being a five-timer. I’ve also heard multiple people say that don’t like him as a comedic actor, because he always plays things awkwardly and never seems like he’s having fun. I understand those criticisms, but I dunno, I’ve always enjoyed him.

    Reading your reviews and the comments and following along with the episodes, I’m finding that I don’t agree with a lot of the common criticisms about this era. I still like Fred, I still like Kristen, the Seth and Amy duo is alright, and the writing matches the performance fine. There are things I WISH they did, like mini-epics or slice of life sketches or blackout cold opens, but it’s futile to expect that from 21st century SNL. The writing on a sketch by sketch basis seems fine. Even the S35-S37 period is more just boring instead of angering to me, at its worst.

    1. Never saw the appeal of Jonah Hill, unless being funny-looking is supposed to be the same thing as having a comedic point of view.

  3. A stronger Year 33 show. “Internet Date” did little for me, beyond the twist ending. I enjoyed the Downey Digital Short. I don’t hate Jonah Hill as a host, but I can see how people think he’s too uncomfortable and fidgety.

  4. So I’m wondering if there’s a time male-on-male would be considered not cheap, unnecessary and hacky. I’m honestly not sure. I remember loving this digital short, but as much for the premise as for the visual of a young Jonah aggressively making out with freaking old ass Jim Downey and then blowing him. I know I was a sucker for some homophobic material when I was younger. Some of that I’ve had to park (Christmas Kangaroo), but some I still see value in (the original Girl With No Gaydar). The Friends parody with the Forte/Hammond kiss was given the ok but other pieces are dismissed outright. I get why in same cases because the ENTIRE joke will be built on the very sight of two men kissing, but that’s not always the case. To me, this Digital Short has a bit more going on. Am I wrong? Is the kiss now inherently disqualifying?

    1. @Carson I’d say it depends on the context. There’s a dating show sketch in 2016 which ends with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney falling for each other and making out. I know some people find that to be cheap, but it works for me, as there is buildup and Beck and Kyle (somewhat) naturally kiss, rather than what you usually get (closed mouths awkwardly pressing together, or mouths wide open, tongues lolling for maximum Vogelcheck LOLLERSKATES audience reaction).

      In the case of this short, I get why the kiss would be seen as hacky and cheap, especially when used side-by-side with Andy kissing a dog in another short. Personally it doesn’t bother me this time, because yes, it’s shock value, but otherwise we mostly just have the usual beats of the old cliche about a friend who learns his friend is sleeping with a parent. They don’t have Andy vomiting, or throwing slurs around, or what have you.

      SNL did get its share of criticism at this time for homophobic material (so much so that Seth even gave an interview addressing it [can’t find it at the moment]), but this one doesn’t bother me. Stuff like the Liberace material with Fred Armisen does, but I should save that for when we get there…

  5. @Stooge, just wanted to say that the Internet Archives has recently had most of the SNL episodes uploaded, and the last sketch (which is pretty good, fortunately, and yes, gives Casey a deserved showcase) is on that copy. I don’t really want to post the direct link but a search on there should find you the way.

  6. Bill later said that he had no idea who Spitzer was, and had to study up before this cold open. It’s interesting to compare his performance here to some of his later Update turns in the role, where he and Seth just devolve into a gigglefest.

    He and Spitzer later had an encounter on Leno that is, presumably, lost to the sands of time:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-hader-meets-eliot-spitzer-awkwardness-ensues_n_3599504

    Suze Orman was very flattered by Kristen’s impression. Trivia note – Suze was college roommates with John Belushi’s wife Judy, so she knew him for a while. She talks here about the impression, about being invited to a show and about her very…unique way of greeting Kristen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drhoM9OId38

    (I used to watch the show around this time and I’d say they nailed it – not sure how I will feel about future versions)

    Jonah has talked about the Benihana character (Adam Grossman). In the last few minutes of this clip he shares that he, Seth and Bill wrote the first sketch, based off a kid Bill saw in a Benihana.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baHtrip_gTA

    (usually I’d agree that keeping the character in one location is too repetitive, but the turnover of cast helps my enjoyment – the last one, where Jonah decides to derail the whole thing to break Leslie Jones up, might be my favorite)

    NBC has the last of the MacGrubers on their site (Lonely Island’s site mentions that John Solomon was the director this time around).

    https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/macgruber-4-jonah-hill–31508/n12216

    (I do like the performances in this one, and seeing another rare pairing of Bill and Will, but the idea seems undercooked all the way through the runner)

    As for the episode, it’s better than I expected – probably one of the first episodes this season I’ve enjoyed all the way through, even though it doesn’t have the highs of several (especially the Amy Adams episode). You can definitely see the four-episodes-in-a-row burnout here, with Macgruber, that thin monologue, the underwritten “sitch” game show, and the Target Lady (Jonah is NOT a good fit for that type of sketch and Target Lady is also oddly aggressive in a way she usually isn’t – it’s one of the worst of the TL sketches), but somehow the night holds together.

    The best of the night is probably the singing sketch with Kristen and Will (made even better because it’s not too far off just how crazy some of those ’70s C&W duets could get), although the blind date, digital short, cold open and Update are no slouches. After the way Tracy sometimes stumbled through his Update commentaries it’s good to see that he mostly hits a home run here.

    I know Jonah Hill is polarizing, and his later SNL episodes focusing more on pants-pooping and other embarrassments didn’t help matters, but I like that he just fits right in with the cast (moreso his later appearances), even to the point of some of the giggliness we get here (I guess he was a few years ahead of this cast on that front…). I find him comfortable to watch as a host, and that’s more than I can say for several other 5-timers.

    SNL randomly uploaded an old backstage for the digital short, including a return for Chris Parnell (!) ‘interviewing’ Akiva and Andy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB5vuXDgPTg&t=131s

    Promos (the first Bill is in as himself, which could show his steady rise in the cast, I suppose)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmBAiyPP7Dw

  7. I mainly remember the Elliot Spitzer Cold Open especially Kristen Wiig’s surly reaction as that governor’s wife which was hilarious. I don’t remember Seth and Amy’s “Really?!” commentary on him as well but I usually enjoyed those immensely whenever they did them. Glad to finally watch the third “MacGruber” that was cut from this ep…

  8. Mariah’s new album hadn’t been released yet, so this was the first time anyone had ever heard Migrate. For three of her four appearances, her second song was a “deep cut” and not a commercial single (Vanishing, If It’s Over, Migrate). I lived in NYC during this period and it was a special time for me.

  9. FWIW, the Peacock cut of this episode has everything, including the Internet dating sketch, except for the Mariah Carey performances.

  10. The Benihana setting I believe is as mentioned it’s near the Dad’s apartment. as it is a communal table restaurant it allows for the random people sharing the table.

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